most would agree when chuck schumer came down on the side of voting for chuck hagel as defense secretary, that sealed the deal, would you gentlemen agree? >> yeah. i never could envision how he would start obama's second term by coming out and going against chuck hagel for secretary of defense. never made any sense and yeah, once he came out, the story ended. i loved the media chatter about how hagel has this huge confirmation battle and will end up with 90 votes. schumer was the first and final voice on that, i think. >> john: i think that was more due to the alleged controversy over comments about the israeli lobby by hagel unfortunately called the jewish lobby. chuck schumer one of our most powerful jewish members of the senate. >> i was surprised. even this morning, i was watching tv. there were anti-chuck hagel ads being run by this -- one interest group. i was quite shocked. they went after him for the israel, for comments he made about -- >> myrlie evers, widow of the late, great myrlie evers. >> america, we are here, our nation's capitol, on this day, january 21, 2013, the inaugu